Abstract: Fine examines Platonic and Socratic forms, and discusses the features they have in common and the differences between them. For Aristotle, there is a radical distinction between Socratic and Platonic forms: e.g. on Aristotle's view, since Plato's forms are separate, they are not just universals, but also particulars, whereas Socratic forms are close to Aristotle's conception of universals. Fine argues that Plato's forms and Socratic forms are the same entities; rather than making a break with Socratic forms, Plato attempts to develop them in such a way as to make them plausible and defendable. Socrates and Plato, Fine argues, are in agreement on certain basic points, such as that forms are universals, or properties, and that they are self-predicating; when they differ, it is usually on some aspect that Socrates has no opinion, such as the separation, perfection, and non-sensibility of the forms.

Keywords: non-sensibility, perfection, self-predicating, separation, Socrates, universals,